I IMPOUNDED A 1947 GMC SILVERSIDE BUS TODAY AND WAS JUST LOOKING ON THE INTERNET FOR ANYTHING RELATED SAW THIS FINE BUS MADE ME LOOK IS THERE ANYWHERE THAT I COULD FIND INFO ON THE ENGINE AND BUS MINE LOOKS TO BE IN GOOD SHAPE THANKS FOR ANY HELP

What kind of info do you need about the engine? Is it the 6-71 Detroit? It probably has two fuel tanks, and is a 4 speed on the steering columb. None of the gears are syncromeshed. Reverse is Put it in first, press and hold the reverse button, and drop her into 2nd. What do you need to know?

hi I have a 1940 yellow coach silversides bus that is converted to a motorhome. has a 671 detroit diesel engine. runs need to sell this rare bus. where can i advertise?

I am looking for parts for a 1948 silverside back brake light marker lights ,light up dog on ft, Dash pic ect.call me dave 612-701-4213

(Originally posted on January 24, 2009 1:38:10 PM EST)

i own a 1947 GM PD 3751 and i need windows front and side ones please let me know if you have any

February 20, 2009 9:22:45 AM EST

I have a GMC 1946 Silverside for sale.

Posted on April 13, 2009 3:08:25 PM EDT

has anyone figured out how this site works? i registered and logged in, but when i try to get to a user profile it keeps saying i'm not logged in!

anyway, Kate or anyone else with a bus for sale, please contact me at pearled-duck@earthlink.net

April 14, 2009 1:44:43 AM EDT

Has this bus been sold yet? If not where is is located and how much are you asking? Thanks

Posted on April 30, 2009 7:30:43 PM EDT

Hello everyone.
Im looking for a 1948 silverside.
Converted or not.
Prefer at least drivable But needing work would be fine as long as it's priced right.
Call me during the day or e mail me back.
Other years close would work.
Thanks steve 1-250-216-0616

Posted on May 1, 2009 12:40:09 AM EDT

hi everybody!
i am looking for buing PD 3751 as well as a scenicruiser...please drop me a line in case you are interested in selling...i am pleased for any information helping me in this regards
0049 1714431155 kai georg
or via email info@kaihgeorg.com

thank you !

May 11, 2009 5:19:04 PM EDT

Looking for good PD 3751/4151/4501/4104 buses...pay immediately cash...contact info@kaigeorg.com...thanks for your help!!

June 6, 2009 8:12:16 AM EDT

I now own this PD4151 Silverside pictured here and am in the process of updating the engine and interior. I own five other silversides. Tim vifmw@columbis.rr.com

June 8, 2009 1:55:29 PM EDT

Hello,
I am looking for powersteering booster cyc. for a 1956 4104 .
Thank You

July 30, 2009 10:36:10 PM EDT

i am looking for a entrance door for a 1952 4103 gmc silverside any one can help me find one would be greatly appreciated thanks ed

October 2, 2009 12:19:58 PM EDT

here is my cell # for the entrance door for the 4103 gmc bus door 1952 765-669-0011 also this bus is for sale $5500.00
it runs and drives may need tires if going a long distance give me a call for info thanks ed

October 2, 2009 12:25:33 PM EDT

Looking for a left rear window for a 1952 GMC 4103.

October 7, 2009 8:23:35 PM EDT

When I was in the navy in the 1950s, I used to ride the Greyhound bus back and forth from San Francisco to San Diego. The Silverside was the bus I usually rode. When I sat near the front, it seemed to me the driver used to pull a small lever on the shifting arm that gave a pronounced "click" when changing gears. Always wondered what the purpose of that was. Was it a "split rear end" and actually gave the transmission eight ranges rather than four?

January 19, 2010 9:18:37 AM EST

Does anyone know what became of a 1947 GMC PD3751 bus that I used to own? I believe the "serial number" was "153." At the time I owed it, the "body" paint was light tan. I drove this bus out of Florida with my band between 1970 and 1975 then sold the bus to a rock band based out of Colorado. I lost track of the coach at that time. The bus had been beautifully converted to sleep eight people (although we shoe-horned ten into it every night).

February 7, 2010 1:28:32 PM EST

I have a PD 3751 1948 GMC Bus converted to RV for sale. We hate to let her go. We traveled in Bessie for 3 1/2 years. She got us all over the United States and back home again. I am forced in this economy to let her go. Call for pics and details. 605-458-2563

March 23, 2010 2:59:59 PM EDT

I am looking for a running converted to RV bus in the area or could drive it home or to the area. At a reasonable price. If anyone knows of any please let me know

April 14, 2010 5:41:25 PM EDT

Hi, my name is Dao. I am looking for a second hand Greyhound bus. If someone would like to offer us please send the quotation with the currently cost to me ASAP -ind sea freight cost and transportation loading will be perfect!! - Thanks..

I have a 1948 Silverside for sale. The outside was restored to near orginal 10-15 years ago and the the inside is a RV. It belonged to my father who was a master mechanic and this was his beloved bus. He passed away recently I need to sell it. Please e-mail me kopykat@charter.net

i have a 1958 GMC BUS 671 DETROIT RUNS WANT TO SALE GOOD SHAPE $5000.00 CALL ME AT 813-713-2333

I'm looking for either a current RV conversion or an example of one suitable for conversion to an RV old (I believe the correct name is "Super ScenicCruiser, though I have also seen it referred to as a ScenicCruiser. In any even it is the full two level coach with the driver's seat and if I remember correctly two rows of seats on the driver's station level and then a second level one or two steps upward to the rest of the bus. I'm not sure of the original engine(s) employed as I have heard stories of them being two large bore straight sixes driving though a combining transmission to both rear axles though some have reportedly been converted to 8V72 diesel. Once agai this is from memory but I believe I have been told that they would accelerate on both engines and then on the level roadways of the midwest shut down one of the two engines as the power would not be required for level roadway travel. When they reached the Pacific Intermountain West they would reengage the othe engine to transit the Continental Divide. Additionally anyone who can provide reference materials would be greatly appreciated. It is my intention to use it as an RV but with solar dark glass in the windows to avoid the RV look and to give it a traditional cross-country bus appearance.

Great looking bus!!! I'm an auctioneer and have the possibility of offering a 1948 Silverside. I'm told it hasn't been started for about four years, it does have the original interior; although some of the seats have been removed. The owners tell me they are "stacked" away. Hope I get the chance to sell the bus, I'm really not far from you.

I have a 1947 silver side greyhound bus with a detroit 671. Needs restoration. It is heading to the scrap yard. Reasonable offers considered. 562 296 3788 Hurry before we cut it up

I need to know how to turn on the heater, it seems no hot water is going to the heater. Is there a valve to switch?

We are looking for spare parts for a 1948 PD3751 Silverside. Can anybody help us with a adress where we can possibly find something. Thank you very much.

can you help us. Need a church Buss.
Reasonable 269-945-3327 Ed.

I AM LOOKING FOR PARTS FOR A 1945 SILVERSIDE PD3751 THANKS ROGER

1 561 793 4401 OR 389 3758

I LIKE YOU WEB SITE KEEP UP THE WORK THANKS ROGER

Hola, I need the right rear light marker for a 1948 gmc silverside.
Can anybody help finding it or have it??

Thank you

Hasta la vista.

Tomas Gonzalez

i am looking for the rubber striping for the doors under the bus i nead 20 feet to 30 my cell is 308 672 8875

I own a Vintage 1948 GMC Silverside Greyhound bus PD 3751, which is currently being refurbished in Switzerland. We desperately look for: 2 drum-rear brakes (old number of part: 2232422)

I own a Vintage 1948 GMC Silverside Greyhound bus PD 3751, which is currently being refurbished in Switzerland. We desperately look for: 2 drum-rear brakes (old number of part: 2232422)
email: odile.burger@bluewin.ch
phone: +41 44 201 74 53

If you are looking for parts for the Silverside buses PD3751-PD4151 I have several parts buses and also refurbish used parts. Tim vifmw@columbus.rr.com

1948 Silverside converted to RV.
1948 Silverside original with seats.
For pics and info and price email or call. 507-340-5359

1948 Silverside converted to RV.
1948 Silverside original with seats.
For pics and info and price email or call. 507-340-5359
email petesclassics@cccinternet.net

I was a driver for GreatLakes Greyhound out of Detroit in the early 1950 when the Silverside was the top of the line in Motor Coaches.They were a pleasure to drive and when the engine was tuned right they would really move

Hi , I'm looking for a hi-quality Silverside , prefer stock looking outside with rv conversion and superstrong mechanics.
I NEED A TWEAKED OUT , NO HEADACHE COACH
Will pay very fair cash for the right coach.
JP 954 5250600

Hola, I need the right rear light marker for a 1948 gmc silverside.
Can anybody help finding it or have it??

my e mail is pvr@magiic.com

Thank you

Hasta la vista.

Tomas Gonzalez

Selling 1948 Greyhound Silversides MH conversion with generator haven't started it in 7 years but it went cross country before I parked it asking 3500 956.222.7071 pictures upon request

SOLD! Thankyou for any and all inquiries

I have a restored 1940 GMC Silversides for sale. How can I list it on your site?

Sue, where is your restored siliverside? How do I contact you?

Looking for values on our 1952 silverside buses (one involved in a lawsuit)!
Exterior very clean with no dents, interior gutted to convert to motor home. All original parts, run strong!

looking for steer axle brake drums and shoes for a 1952 gmc bus.

Have 1948 PD3751 Silverside bus - shifter bolt broke - seemingly impossible to get to the bolt to repair. We've heard that we can convert from column mount to floor mount. Does anyone know where we could get the appropriate parts? Have been told the 'city bus' version was floor mount.
Thanks Nick
nbender@gmail.com

I drove 3751s along with 4103s when I first started driving. I'd pick the 4103s every time. Column shift and non-existant A/C, along with the HEAVY steering, were the hallmark of the old "Dogs." Fun fact: Did you know that the roof panels and roof bows on the Silversides were THE SAME as what they used for the 4104? A 4104 is a 3751 without the frame, different siding, flat floor, air suspension and different end caps. You can use a Silversides roof panel on a 4104 and it'll fit exactly. The 4101-2-3 were derived from transit models. Some body and suspension parts on the 8' wide transits fit the 4101-2-3 perfectly, as well.

@Nick The "four on the tree" on the old Dogs was one of their worst features. If you can find a junk 4102-3, or a junk early transit with a stick, you can use the shift box and levers to convert. Grab the "stickless" steering column off the 4102-3 while you're at it, too. It will take a lot of "re-engineering" to get it done, but it's doable. Failing that, why not just have a machine shop custom turn a new bolt for you? As I say, the column shift on those stunk, but it'd be a lot cheaper to have a jobber shop turn a custom bolt for you than do the conversion.

Hey DesertBill--You have some good info about those coaches. My 4103 needs Driver Windshield and two rear windows. Any ideas from transit coaches?
You are right about the 4103. Some drivers said that it would run when newer coaches died,and when I compare the ride with all air susp coaches I've driven,it is smooother,by far.Also has gotten us ticket in New Mex desert at 80,and I had to change tire sizes to metric,and run engine at 2600. And it loves it,can shift fourth to third at 24-2600 RPM/56 MPH and runs at 2000 in 3 Rd.,up a hill. 5% grade and shift to 2nd.,at 38-42 MPH/2200 RPM.
Thought you'd get a kick out of this,as you could picture doing what I described yourself.
All the Best,Big Al,Mr Filter

Testing...this site doesn't appear to be working too well. Hello?

OK, now on to Al's question. Front and rear curved glass for 4102/3s DO NOT EXIST. That's a big reason the last line I drove for that had '03s dumped them...broken glass that was insanely hard to find, and EXPEN$IVE! The last time I found a 4102/3 windshield half was about 5 years ago, and it went for $1250. The rears are even worse...last one of those went for $1500, but it was NOS. 2600 RPM on a 6-71 is suicide, usually, and, unless you have a 4 valve head and N-series injectors and cam, they should be governed at 2150 no load. Running them higher than that might work for awhile, but engine life will be short. We used to run all our 6-71Ns at 2250, and the 6-71 two-valves at 2150. There's not much point in going faster, since HP starts to drop above 2100 anyway, unless you have a 4 valve head and bigger sleeve ports. A 4102/3/4 with the Trailways 3.875 rear will shift at 20, 30 and 50 MPH when governed at 2150. We had some with the "Texas" 3.56 rear end, and they'd shift at 24, 36 and 58, and would top out around 84. Most Hounds had the 4.10, which had a top speed around 65, which is why we avoided any used Greyhounds.

Part Deux: We did have one early 1953 4104 that originally came from Greyhound, but they had the 3.875 rear. It was the first one they rebuilt as a 6-71N with N-65s, and it proved that the money for the N-series "kit" was well spent. Fuel economy went from 7.5 to 11 on the road. I have driven some 4104s with the Hydra-Shift 2 speed clutch, and they were able to pass any 4106 or MC-5 on a grade. Anyway, sorry about your broken glass...it's going to cost more than the bus is worth to replace unless you get VERY lucky.

ATTN: Al Bianco or any other 4102/3 owners: An NOS right side W/S glass has shown up on eBay today for $900. This will get bid up to probably a grand or more, but these are IMPOSSIBLE to get. If you're serious about glass replacement, bid now. http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574634399&toolid=10001&campid=5336697092&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FGMC-Coach-PD-4103-Passenger-Side-Windshield-NOS-%2F160111754934%3Fpt%3DVintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories%26vxp%3Dmtr%26hash%3Ditem2547677eb6%23ht_1110wt_907

Hello DBob;
All your comments show the many experiences you still remember like still happening,and are great and correct. My coach has an N series with a Jake Brake,and 90 Mm injectors,and since I have done some latest technology additions ,I feel safe describing why I can run at 22-2500. Firstly,not running petroleum 40W lube,using Amsoil 100% Synthetic 15W40 with 1 micron By-pass filter; Have revitalized it with a molecular technology which imparts a Ceramic/metallic coating on all contact parts in the cylinder; running metric size ires allows 1/2 gear lower gearing to ease smoother ,later changes at higher RPM,of course. Third gear runs at 2000 at 58 MPH,which usually means pulling most hills in that gear ,which is about 1500 @ 48 MPH uphill. I drove Detroit 55 series(4 cyl-8 ltr.),at same speed with load on Grapevine many trips,in 4th of 5,at 1400 Rpm.
THought I'd update you on this old coach,and appreciate your kind input on it. Thnx,Al B

@Al Bianco I hope you get that windshield...that is a GOOD price on an NOS piece like that! There are fiberglas replacements for the rear windows, but I forgot who made them. I know that my outfit sold off all their 4102/3s due to broken windows, and that was over 30 years ago. Holy moley, N-90s???? Yoikes, that's a lot of fuel! Sounds from your speeds that you have the 3.56:1 "Texas" rear end. Most of the Trailways 4103s I've come across that were from Texas had those, but most of the ex-Trailways 4104s had the 3.875. Greyhounds from the "second batch" after '56 all had 4.10s, which is why people complain that they're slugs. TMN&O, however, had a lot of '04s with the 3.56. 4.10 was the common suburban bus rear end with a stick, like the TDM-4515 I used to drive on a suburban route from Riverside to March AFB. That one was ex-LAMTA 2025, a 41 chair car. We had another 4515 bought new in '54 by Tanner when they owned the franchise, and it had the 3.875, odd for any transit bus. Anyway, sure hope you get that windshield!

A Detroit 4-53 with a five speed sounds like a Flx Starliner. Did you drive for Tanner?

Hey D/Bob;
Actually was a 4 stroke 55 Series -4 banger in a MC 9 engine conversion. School paid $50,000 to put it in with all the electronics and aftercooling piping at the two side/top radiators. Had a 5 speed Allison 740Cr with 5th real close to 4th,making it easy to get a grip at about 1450 RPM,( 73 MPH Max),and like you said anything over 1600 was a waste in this engine as it produced 95% of torque at 1350-1400, and lost torque at about 1800.
Somebody posted an e-bay w/shield for pass side at $900,and I'd offer CASH $100. ,Driver's side,as there aren't many 4103's still running,and they know it. Some jerk might pay that because of scarcity,but there's a scarcity of runners (buyers)too.I'm an old peddler and am aware of some tricks out there.
The coach needs esthetics mostly,but as you know,it REALLY attracts attention everywhere I go with it.Has Alum wheels and not many leaks anymore.Remember that??
Regards, Big Al B

Wow...someone actually converted a 9 with a 55? That's...uh...crazy. I really don't think they'd take $100 for this...haha...NOS still in the box? True, not many on the road anymore, maybe ten, at most. Oh yes, Detroits were good at leaks, for sure, any of them, especially the old tin tops. Those old hoses on the old GMs were always a leak source, as was the trans, 50 wt all over the back of the bus, 4104s, too. Bad blower seals were always good for covering the back end in crud, too. Had one ex-Trailways that was so bad, the engine would partially run on the oil coming out of the blower. CHP finally red tagged that one until they rebuilt. That engine had over 600K on it when they finally tore it down...it was BAD! The A/C engine was just as bad, 1 qt oil for a two hour run on a little Continental...haha! Sure do miss those old days, though...couldn't imagine pushing aorund a Van Drool or Prevost these days, or even a G4500. Not the aame.

Have 1947 GMC Silverside. Body in fair to good condition, conversion started and has all fixtures,lots of spare motor parts. All for sale. Will run with some tinkering. Best offer. Located in NW Okla. phone 580 571 4652 or 405 830 1311.

PS email for Silverside in NW Ok is dwlarkey@yahoo.com

I have a 48 Silverside 3751 for sale in central ms. No motor or trans. A/C looks complete 662-803-5577

Hey Bob,Great job on the Silverside.Keep it alive there such a beautiful bus! I'm in the market for one to do the same and use it for a motorhome.There becoming hard to find.Take care of it and good luck with the dogs,it would just finish it!

I have a 1947 GMC bus that I am parting out. Please email me with parts that you are looking for. 602-403-5048

The 1947 GMC bus is gone. Thanks for all the interest.